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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote shortly about Valio and it&#8217;s Gefilus-pages some time ago. What has happened since? I wrote a short e-mail to Valio Consumer Services about the Gefilus and SEO, linking to these pages. Short and polite reply came pretty quickly, stating that they will deliver the feedback to developers of the site. And now? What [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote shortly about <a href="http://ilkka.kaikuvuo.com/2009/03/gefilus-valio-revisited/">Valio and it&#8217;s Gefilus-pages </a>some time ago.</p>
<p><strong>What has happened since?</strong></p>
<p>I wrote a <strong>short e-mail to Valio Consumer Services</strong> about the Gefilus and SEO, linking to these pages. Short and polite reply came pretty quickly, stating that they will deliver the feedback to developers of the site.</p>
<p><strong>And now?</strong></p>
<p>What was earlier like <strong>this</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sivusto vaatii toimiakseen selaimen joka tukee freimejä. Ole hyvä ja päivitä selaimesi.</p></blockquote>
<p>Looks now like<strong> this</strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Gefilus</em> &#8211; Vahvistaa vastustuskykyä. Sopii kaiken ikäisille</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>What can I say?</strong></p>
<p>Now the &lt;noframes&gt; -element even has a nice little link to some other site (which sadly is the same Flash-based site as Gefilus.fi).</p>
<p><strong>Power of feedback is remarkable, I&#8217;d say.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And why did I do this,</strong> someone asks?<br />
No-one paid me any money. Pro bono. Free. <strong>Kansalaistoimintaa</strong>.</p>
<p>I might have just as well done nothing. Or just <strong>laughed</strong> my tiny ass off.</p>
<p><strong>I didn&#8217;t.</strong> Now the problem is somehow fixed.</p>
<p>What else?</p>
<p>At the original posting I wondered who on earth makes only Flash-based sites with no proper content for search engines. <strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>Well, who makes them?</strong></p>
<p>The link at &lt;noframes&gt;-element leads to <a href="http://vapaatila.net/">Vapaatila.net</a>, or actually <a href="http://www.sek.fi">SEK&amp;Grey</a>, <strong>Finland&#8217;s biggest ad agency</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Sic.</strong></p>
<p><strong>You might as well draw your own conclusions</strong> about SEK&amp;Grey&#8217;s own website (Flash, Whoo-hoo!), source code below:</p>
<blockquote>
<pre id="line20">&lt;<span class="start-tag">noscript</span>&gt;
&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" name="sek" width="100%" height="100%" align="middle" id="sek"&gt;
  &lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" /&gt;
  &lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false" /&gt;
  &lt;param name="movie" value="sek.swf" /&gt;

  &lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff" /&gt;
  &lt;embed src="sek.swf" scale="exactfit" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="100%" height="100%" name="sek" align="middle" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" allowfullscreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /&gt;
&lt;/object&gt;
&lt;/<span class="end-tag">noscript</span>&gt;</pre>
<p><img src="file:///C:/DOCUME~1/JRJEST~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg" alt="" /></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>I rest my case.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Anyhoo, I&#8217;m glad that Gefilus is somehow better;)</strong></p>
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